Anyone know about the Honda Orthia?

Never seen one before. Guessing it’s imported, right-hand drive, and all-wheel drive.

It’s basically a Civic wagon with all-wheel drive. Only made for Japan.

Corey said:
It’s basically a Civic wagon with all-wheel drive. Only made for Japan.

Not all of them are AWD… Civics and Integras also had AWD in some markets where the Orthia was sold. But people still want the B16/B18 models more.

Corey said:
It’s basically a Civic wagon with all-wheel drive. Only made for Japan.

It actually has the CR-V drivetrain—B20 engine with real-time 4WD. Solid setup for a Civic.

But real-time 4WD isn’t a full AWD system. No center differential.

Still bummed this version of the Civic Wagon never made it to the US.

Kinda looks like a CR-V wagon. I really want one. Pretty cool.

10k for a 29-year-old car? That’s wild.

Sage said:
10k for a 29-year-old car? That’s wild.

Rarity affects prices. Look at the Honda Shuttle—4WD versions are rare where I am. If you find one, it’s not going for less than 10k, and even then, people just buy them to swap the AWD parts into Civics.

Sage said:
10k for a 29-year-old car? That’s wild.

Wait till you see what people pay for 100-year-old cars :joy:

Sage said:
10k for a 29-year-old car? That’s wild.

Just because they’re asking 10k doesn’t mean they’ll get it. In Japan, it’s probably a 3-5k car, but then you add shipping, import fees, registration, and the importer’s cut. Plus, unless you’ve got someone checking the car in Japan, importing can be risky—rust, bad repairs, etc. Sometimes people take a loss.

@Max
A broker in Japan charges a flat $1000 CAD for handling everything, no matter if it’s a kei truck or an R35. That’s less than $750 USD at today’s exchange rate.

Lonnie said:
@Max
A broker in Japan charges a flat $1000 CAD for handling everything, no matter if it’s a kei truck or an R35. That’s less than $750 USD at today’s exchange rate.

So it’s $1000 CAD from buying the car to landing it at the port? What about for the East Coast?

@Max
No, shipping rates change. Taxes also vary by country. In the US, the extra fees are getting worse because of dumb policies on 25-year-old imports.

Most Japan-to-US shipments go to the West Coast. Ever looked at a map? You can still move cars overland—rail, trucks, etc.

The broker just handles paperwork and makes sure the car is good. Still worth ~$700 USD for that.

My car cost 100,000¥, and after fees, taxes, and shipping, I paid $5300 CAD landed in Vancouver.

@Lonnie
Ah, I see what you meant now. Thought you were saying it’s only $750 total to land a car here.

Yeah, that broker fee makes sense. The last guy I knew who imported a car got burned—it showed up with three others, and his was a rust bucket. Guess he either skipped the inspection or got scammed.

And yeah, I know how a map works. I work at a port on the East Coast. We get JDM cars every week on RORO ships. Shipping to the West Coast is probably cheaper, but getting a car from there to the East Coast is at least another $1500 by truck.

Japan always got the coolest stuff we missed out on. The Fiero sedan (Civic) was my dream, but this is definitely up there. Love wagons.

I need one.

Imagine this with an EK front end :drooling_face:

Darby said:
Imagine this with an EK front end :drooling_face:

Check out the Aerodeck Civic, might be what you’re looking for.

Koa said:

Darby said:
Imagine this with an EK front end :drooling_face:

Check out the Aerodeck Civic, might be what you’re looking for.

What’s different about it?